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Message non lupar rémi le besque » 16 Nov 2016, 11:22

Bonjour à tous,

J’ouvre ce nouveau sujet pour partager avec vous le projet en cours dans l’atelier familial.
Notre dernier modèle, le Nébula EVO ayant maintenant 6 ans, il lui faut un remplaçant au gout du jour. Outre le fait de faire une nouvelle machine, l’objectif est aussi d’utiliser une technique de construction différente avec un fuselage bois, à l’image des kits japonais que je trouve magnifique.

La conception du modèle a été figée il y a maintenant 3 ans et c’est donc un résumé de la construction qui est maintenant bien avancée.

Bien que je n’ai aucun doute sur les qualités de vol la formule biplans, nous sommes resté sur une solution simple du monoplan avec T. L’idée étant d’améliorer une configuration qu’on connait bien, plutôt que de repartir de zéro.

Ça commence donc par quelques heures devant l’écran pour obtenir les formes générales, puis les détails de la structure.







Une vue de la déco prévu.



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Message non lupar pascal nowik » 16 Nov 2016, 14:09

magnifique Remi et bon courage pour la construction ...
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Message non lupar wel » 16 Nov 2016, 20:13

Oui cela s'annonce tres bien, beaucoup de courage pour mener rapidement son développement à termes, J'ai hate de le voir voler!
Wel alias le Poulidor du circuit !
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Message non lupar patchouli35 » 16 Nov 2016, 22:08

;) Ah enfin on sait à quoi il ressemble ! Vivement que ça vole !
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Message non lupar damienr6 » 17 Nov 2016, 18:41

superbe
comme a sont habitude il va nous faire un zinc digne de grand constructeur
le f3a une passion en électrons
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Message non lupar frederic burnel » 18 Nov 2016, 18:24

ça a de la gueule! , beau projet, belle déco
quelques questions techniques, comme tu t'inspire des kits japonnais, fais tu le partie capot moteur en moulage?
Je vois que la partie du fuselage (vue du dessus) entre le bord de fuite et le stab, n'est pas droite, comment procédé tu pour le dôme?, je suppose que ce n'est pas une partie développable?
Pressé de le voir en vol et également de suivre la construction sur le forum.
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Message non lupar rémi le besque » 19 Nov 2016, 13:50

Salut Fred,

Oui la partie avant est en fibre, idem au kit japonais.
Bien vue pour les flancs courbés ! L’idée est d’avoir un fuselage profilé, donc il y’a un peu de galbe entre la zone plane de l’aile et celle du stab. Comme le galbe est léger (4mm de flèche maxi de chaque coté) et que la partie enroulée derrière la bulle est assez haute (de 160 à 100mm), la déformation est au final négligeable. J’avais déjà vue ça sur de vieux plans et c’est aussi comme ça qu’est construit le Toxylen de Gerhard Mayr.
http://triple-m.net/typo3temp/pics/cb21534403.jpg
Pour le dessous ce n’est pas la même histoire. Je pensais pouvoir aussi déformer le coffrage mais au final, on a fait une pièce moulée (comme sur le Fantasista d’Akiba) permettant d’intégrer au passage des extractions d’air.

Quelques photos de la suite.
Les morceaux de balsa et CP 2mm une fois découpés. J’en ai eu pour environ 200€, bois compris.


La structure de base qui prend forme rapidement. La construction se fait avion retourné.



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Message non lupar Benoît sommacal » 19 Nov 2016, 21:31

salut rémi,

Bon courage pour cette nouvelle aventure.
Cool de varier les plaisirs en passant à une construction bois!!!

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Message non lupar frederic burnel » 22 Nov 2016, 21:19

Merci pour ta réponse Rémi,

Ces questions car je penses a l’après Symetric, ce sera surement un fuselage bois, car j'aimerai conservé le galbe sur l’arrière du fuselage qui est un NACA 008, mais la partie inférieur sera soit plat avec les bord arrondi ou triangulaire, donc pas de problème de ce coté.

Tout a l'air de s'emboiter a la perfection, tu as du passer du temps derrière le PC a dessiner toutes ces pièces!
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Message non lupar rémi le besque » 25 Nov 2016, 21:55

Salut Fred,

La solution du NEO STAGE est un bon compromis esthétique pour la partie inférieur. Ça fais un peu moins taillé à la serpe qu’un dessous plat.
http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/157315 ... eneo07.jpg

Il faut compter une quarantaine d’heure pour dessiner le projet (en connaissant bien son logiciel). A faire au chaud en hiver…

La suite avec les flancs. On a mis du balsa de 3mm mais du 2mm avec une strat de carbone en partie avant comme fait Claude aurai suffis.



Mise sous presse la partie enroulée.


Pose de deux petites baguettes de 3x3 pour le guidage du coffrage.


Défonce de la forme femelle sur le coffrage qui a été évidé.


Collage de la forme à la résine de strat avec un peu de micro ballon pour épaissir.
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Message non lupar jourdain » 27 Nov 2016, 20:10

superbe boulot , tu as utilisé quel logiciel ?
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Message non lupar claudecuinet » 27 Nov 2016, 20:23

Bonsoir Rémi

Pour les coffrages; pourquoi n'as tu pas fait un sandwich tissu/balsa/tissu ?
Les deux dernières photos montrent le dessous du Superstage comme tu l'as noté pour Fred.



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Message non lupar rémi le besque » 28 Nov 2016, 17:28

Bonjour Claude,

Oui on y a pensé, c’est la solution bis mais nous sommes resté sur la solution coffré standard pour deux raisons :
-Comme y’a une bulle en composite, je voulais un élément bien rigide pour pouvoir manipuler l’avion sans crainte pendant la fabrication des master.
-J’avais peur que le coffrage tende à s’ouvrir et ne soit pas totalement vertical au niveau du point de tangence avec les flancs.

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